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draxynnic · Oct 27, 2009, 11:39 AM // 11:39

Arguably, his first move was sending an envoy to confirm his suspicions. A small move, but an important action nonetheless.

Konig Des Todes · Oct 27, 2009, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by m0r1arty

Are we going to see the Teller of Tales appear as Lyndsey said we might?

Linsey said she would make it if she had time - so we should (since she had time for a quest chain, she very well had time for a single NPC!)

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It appears Grenth (or the Voice of Grenth at any rate) allows the emissary of Mad King Thorn to enter the Underworld - especially now the Reapers have gained some control over it. The Voice was even told about the potential for a visit beforehand. This was done for free and gave us abilities that made us immune to those who dwell there. I take it the Mad King himself doesn't live there.

I would disagree, but perhaps a different part of the Underworld than the Hall of Judgement (thus an unexplored portion) - as I doubt that what we see is the whole Underworld (and same goes for the Fissure of Woe).

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Are they each in kahoots with Grenth? And if so what are the details of it?

We know Ice King Frozenwind works for Grenth. Mad King Thorn seems to do so as well, but is less knowledegable than Ice King Frozenwind

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Also with regards to Mad King's 'being' his Steward refers to him as a 'spirit lord' and he's plotting his next move. Which would indicate he's made previous moves and has some sort of office over effecting it's outcome.

His next move would be what comes after the quest, I would have to say. But the spirit lord line is interesting. We know for sure he is a spirit now, and not some undead or construct. I still wonder if the Mad King Thorn is an Envoy - or perhaps more along the lines of Ice King Frozenwind.

BrettM · Oct 27, 2009, 05:37 PM // 17:37

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

We know for sure he is a spirit now, and not some undead or construct.

Except the Steward also refers to Thorn as his "undead liege" when he gives you the quest. So which do we take as gospel, given that the same NPC uses both terms when talking about the Mad King?

Free Runner · Oct 27, 2009, 05:57 PM // 17:57

He could of been reffering to the term undead rather than the group that Guild Wars uses. Technically Thorn is an incorporeal undead.

draxynnic · Oct 29, 2009, 12:53 PM // 12:53

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

Linsey said she would make it if she had time - so we should (since she had time for a quest chain, she very well had time for a single NPC!)

Unless she felt the quest chain was a higher priority, and didn't have time to fit the Teller of Tales in.

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

We know Ice King Frozenwind works for Grenth. Mad King Thorn seems to do so as well, but is less knowledegable than Ice King Frozenwind

I'm not sure - I get the impression that he's a resident of the UW without being on Grenth's metaphorical payroll. He can be friends with one of Grenth's vassals without being one himself, after all.

The fact that his envoys get free passage does suggest that whatever his status is, though, he's at least on friendly-ish terms with Grenth.